IFS Informed EMDR–13 Hour Training

General Information

Presenters: Michelle Richardson, Nancy Simons, Bruce Hersey & team of guides

Dates: 10/22/2023 & 10/23/2023 9:00 AM-4:30 PM

Fee: $975 (Earlybird discount until 9/1 $825) Includes full technical support, handouts, and CE credits.

Venue: Online Webinar with experiential breakout rooms for guided practice (1 guide per 3 participants)

This workshop will be approved for "EMDRIA" and "IFS-Institute recertification" CE through Syzygy Institute. A prerequisite for this training is previous IFS training. Examples of trainings that qualify include a) IFS Level One: b) Nachas Consulting 20-hour IFS Experiential Intro; c) Syzygy Step One training,

IFS Informed EMDR–13 Hour Training


A two-full-day didactic & experiential workshop offering a specific view of ego-states, in the context of EMDR therapy through an IFS lens, regarding their ubiquitous appearance, defenses, & relational phenomena. A conceptual bridge is formed between the two models, yielding additional language to enrich therapist-client communication about the client’s internal process, and much more.

Understand the importance of Self-Presence and the co-presence or activation of a Target Part in relationship to the Self. Cultivate and maintain Functional Dual Attention in the Assessment & Desensitization Phases using measurement scales (beyond SUD & VOC) relating to Self-Energy, state-binding affect & protective intention.

Alignment with Memory Reconsolidation research ala Coherence Therapy for additional precision in targeting underlying implicit memories, to increase the accuracy of identifying and elaborating appropriate positive and negative cognitions in the Assessment Phase.

These methods will be demonstrated live with participant volunteers, and significant supervised practice time is planned for participants to learn by doing.



Michelle Richardson, LCSW

Michelle is the owner of Mindful Soul Center for Wellbeing, a thriving group practice located in southern New Jersey. There, she specializes in the treatment of complex trauma and dissociation in addition to providing clinical supervision and consultation to clinicians in varied stages of their professional journey.  

As an EMDRIA Approved Consultant and IFS Level 1 & 2 Therapist, Michelle helps therapists wade through the often murky and complex waters of psychotherapy towards clarity and confidence in their work. At the Syzygy Institute, it is Michelle’s mission to introduce therapists to the ease of which IFS and EMDR integrate and generate lasting healing for their clients, even with some of the most complex client systems. 

Michelle’s curious learner parts led her to one of Bruce’s early iterations of his IFS-Informed EMDR Workshops. There, as a newly trained IFS therapist that felt polarized with her EMDR roots, she softly landed in the meeting place of two models. Now, as an advanced clinician of IFS-Informed EMDR, Michelle is passionate about helping other therapists both experience the healing energy of Self and offer this to some of the most blended protectors they meet in their sessions with clients.  

Michelle has additionally been a featured guest on both the Awaken Your Wise Woman podcast and The Woman Worriers Podcast, where she speaks about Internal Family Systems therapy, anxiety, and the inner critic. 

Nancy Simons, LMHC

For over 30 years Nancy has been providing trauma treatment, training and consulting through her solo private practice in Western Massachusetts. As an EMDRIA Approved Consultant & EMDR Trainer with advanced training in Cultural Competency, Somatic Experiencing, Structural Dissociation and IFS-Informed EMDR, Nancy engages in treatment through a combined and deeply informed lense. 

IFS-Informed EMDR is Nancy’s primary therapeutic modality and she focuses on the treatment of depression and anxiety, dissociative disorders, attachment issues and medical trauma. The resiliency of the human spirit is what inspires her most and she is also a Clinical Supervisor for an in-home therapy program supporting refugee families. There, Nancy utilizes translators to coordinate the delivery of services for trauma treatment and emotional wellness.

An experienced trainer, Nancy brings compassion and patience to the learning experience of the participants, inviting curiosity and courage as participants step into the experiential components of the workshop process. 

Bruce Hersey, LCSW 

Since creating emdrifs.com, a website for self-learning through prerecorded CE courses on IFS, EMDR, and Coherence Therapy integration, Bruce’s teachings continue to develop and evolve to new levels of integration and complexity.

While his methods began with the application of Richard Schwartz’s Internal Family systems (IFS) framework within the Standard Protocol of Eye Movement Desensitization & Reprocessing (EMDR) from Francine Shapiro, further insight has been added through Bruce Ecker’s Coherence Therapy and its clinical application of neuroscience from memory reconsolidation research. 

Bruce is an experienced presenter and workshop leader, known for his clarity, humor, warmth, and humility. He has led and co-led numerous introductory IFS and IFS-Informed EMDR workshops, both in person and online. 

An EMDRIA Approved Consultant and Level 3 Trained, Approved IFS Clinical Consultant, Bruce has presented twice at the IFS Annual Conference, AASECT, and EMDR UK. 

Bruce has also published short animated educational introduction videos on IFS (Finding Your Parts) and EMDR (EMDR At A Glance) on YouTube. You can listen to Bruce talking about IFS-Informed EMDR on Therapy Explained Podcast with James Lloyd and The One Inside Podcast with Tammy Sollenberger

IFS Informed EMDR–13 Hour Training


  1. 1. Identify one advantageous aspect of the IFS concept of Self that is not explicitly included in EMDR’s Adaptive Information Processing (AIP) system.
  2. 2. Explain the relationship between Functional Dual Attention and Self-Presence.
  3. 3. Describe the concept of energy as it applies to Protective Parts and how this can be measured and processed within EMDR.
  4. 4. Describe the concept of energy as it applies to qualities of Self and how these can be measured and installed as a resource within EMDR.
  5. 5. Identify at least one way that IFS language can used in obtaining a NC, PC or VOC. 6. Compile an IFS-Informed Assessment Phase target.
  6. 6. Practice shifting targets from exile to protector, using IFS-Informed scales in Desensitization Phase.
  7. 7. Describe & practice at least 3 IFS Interweaves in Desensitization Phase.
  8. 8. Identify a third type of processing (beside resources and desensitization) with bilateral stimulation named after a stage of Coherence Therapy.
  9. 9. Describe and practice obtaining precise negative cognitions in the Assessment Phase using Coherence Therapy concepts.
  10. 10. Discuss your relationship with your parts-as-therapist based on the IFS model.
  11. 9. Describe and practice obtaining precise negative cognitions in the Assessment Phase using Coherence Therapy concepts.

Application Deadline

October 20, 2023 or until all training spaces are filled, whichever comes first.

Notification of Acceptance

Applicants will be notified, via email, of acceptance when registration is complete and payment is received.

Refund/Cancellation Policy 

Tuition/registration payments are refundable (minus $50) until September 22,  2023.  Cancellations after this date are non-refundable. In this situation, we will attempt to find someone to take your slot (based on our waiting list).


Conference is via webinar. For live options, there will be handicap accessibility.

Course level


Level of clinician 



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CE Information

Continuing Education Credit is granted through Nefesh International for the following professions: Psychologists, Social workers, Mental Health Counselors, and LMFTs. It is the participant’s responsibility to check with their individual state boards to verify CE requirements for their state.NEFESH International, Inc. is recognized by the New York State Education Department’s State Board for Psychology as an approved provider of continuing education for licensed psychologists #PSY-0116.NEFESH International is recognized by the New York State Education Department’s State Board for Mental Health Practitioners as an approved provider of continuing education for licensed marriage and family therapists #MFT-0046NEFESH International is recognized by the New York State Education Department’s State Board for Mental Health Practitioners as an approved provider of continuing education for Mental Health Counselor #MHC-0082NEFESH International is recognized by the New York State Education Department’s State Board for Social Work as an approved provider of continuing education for licensed social workers #SW-0048.This program is co-sponsored by NEFESH International and Neuhoff Psychological Consulting . NEFESH International is approved by the American Psychological Association to sponsor continuing education for psychologists. NEFESH International, maintains responsibility for this program and its content.

Satisfactory Completion:

  • Participants must have paid the tuition fee, signed in or logged in and out each day, attended the entire webinar, and completed an evaluation to receive a certificate (for pre-recorded program, a post-test with a passing grade of 80% is required.) Failure to sign/log in or out will result in forfeiture of credit for the entire course. No exceptions will be made. Partial credit is not available. Certificates are available electronically after satisfactory course completion. A link will be provided for those who have completed the training. 


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IFS Informed EMDR–13 Hour Training


Day 1: Sunday October 22, 2023

9:00-10:30 Welcome, Introduction & Overview -Bruce

10:30-10:45 15 minute break

10:45-11:15 Self & Energy -Michelle/Nancy

11:15-11:45 Self & Energy Exercise: Demo -Michelle/Nancy  

11:45-12:30 Self & Energy Exercise: Practice One all staff

12:30-1:00 30 min Lunch

1:00-1:15 Practice Debrief / Q&A -Michelle/Nancy  

1:15-1:45 Parts & Energy -Michelle/Nancy

1:45-2:15 Parts & Energy Exercise: Demo -Michelle/Nancy

2:15-2:30 15 min break

2:30-3:15 Parts & Energy Exercise: Practice Two all staff

3:15-3:45 Dual Attention Revisited all staff

3:45-4:15 Demo Session -Michelle/Nancy

4:15-4:30 Debrief / Q&A -Michelle/Nancy

Day 2: Monday October 23, 2023

9:00-9:30 Review / Q&A -Bruce

9:30-10:00 IFS-Informed Assessment Phase -Michelle/Nancy

10:00-10:30 Assessment Phase: Demo -Michelle/Nancy

10:30-10:45 15 min break

10:45-11:30 Assessment Phase: Practice Three -- all staff

11:30-11:45 Debrief / Q&A Sam 11:45-12:30 Discovery -Michelle/Nancy

12:30-1:00 30 min Lunch

1:00-1:30 Desensitization & Flow of IFS-Informed EMDR -Michelle/Nancy

1:30-2:15 Discovery or Desensitization: Demo -Michelle/Nancy

2:15-2:30 15 min break

2:30-4:10 Discovery or Desensitization: Practice Four -- all staff

4:10-4:30 Wrap-up, Q&A, Evaluations -Michelle/Nancy


IFS Informed EMDR–13 Hour Training